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Steve Lee (POWERSHELL)
hello everyone, sorry for the slow start
kvprasoon
Hello all...:-)
kvprasoon
Hello all...:-)
Jeff Hicks
Can you use a light theme for the call? This is hard to read.
Jeff Hicks
Can you use a light theme for the call? This is hard to read.
Jeff Hicks
Take pity on an old man.
Jeff Hicks
Take pity on an old man.
Michael B
YAY on the light theme!!!!
JB "AspenForester" Lewis
The first time I tried to join this morning, I got put into *last month's* meeting
Michael B
YAY on the light theme!!!!
JB "AspenForester" Lewis
The first time I tried to join this morning, I got put into *last month's* meeting
Joey Aiello
Yup, that was my bad(JB "AspenForester" Lewis asked "The first time I tried to join this morning, I got put into *last month's* meeting")
Jaykul
"AHHH, my eyes" on the light theme 😛
Keith Hill
Is there any audio? Not hearing anything.
Keith Hill
Is there any audio? Not hearing anything.
Steve Lee (POWERSHELL)
are other people able to hear?(Keith Hill asked "Is there any audio? Not hearing anything.")
Steve Lee (POWERSHELL)
Maybe try rejoiing?(Keith Hill asked "Is there any audio? Not hearing anything.")
Jaykul
"AHHH, my eyes" on the light theme 😛
JB "AspenForester" Lewis
audio is good here
JB "AspenForester" Lewis
audio is good here
Paul Wojtysiak
Audio good here
Paul Wojtysiak
Audio good here
Shawn Melton
Is this work directly with the extension or within the PowerShellEditorServices?
Shawn Melton
Or bit of both?(Shawn Melton asked "Is this work directly with the extension or within the PowerShellEditorServices?")
Shawn Melton
Is this work directly with the extension or within the PowerShellEditorServices?
kvprasoon
Thanks Joey for the detailed update on WGs :-)
Michael Lombardi
Latest version of powershellget v3 on the gallery broke the DSC implementation fwiw
Michael Lombardi
I haven't had a chance to file issues yet(Michael Lombardi asked "Latest version of powershellget v3 on the gallery broke the DSC implementation fwiw")
Michael Lombardi
Mismatch between mof schema and parameters in Set-TargetResource - I'll file the bug or just submit a PR later today(Michael Lombardi asked "Latest version of powershellget v3 on the gallery broke the DSC implementation fwiw")
Robin
Is someone going to tweet the link to the Community Call minutes? I don't think enough people know about this and it would be something that would probably be featured on the powershell.org ICYMI post
Keith Hill
Then maybe the ?. should not be added to the language because folks that don't use ? in variable names will get tripped up on this as it won't be a syntax error. It just won't behave as they expect at runtime $foo?.length - here $foo? would be null and $null.length just return 0. This has potential to introduce lots of bugs because every other language does not require {},
Michael Lombardi
Do you have defined criteria for how you assess compat breaks as risks?
Michael Lombardi
I'm deeply sympathetic to the need to handle breaking changes ofc as a language/tool vendor maintainer myself, just seeking clarity 💜(Michael Lombardi asked "Do you have defined criteria for how you assess compat breaks as risks?")
Rob Holt
Absolutely and it's a really great question. In fact there was a Q&A session earlier in the week with Guido van Rossum and he spoke about this problem and the inevitable turn toward being conservative as a language evolves(Michael Lombardi asked "Do you have defined criteria for how you assess compat breaks as risks?")
Michael Lombardi
Yeah, it's also tough if you can't get the culture of your users on board with treating major versions with care - I've had customers auto-update / pin to master and then yell when it hurts, but it's a slow education process etc ime(Michael Lombardi asked "Do you have defined criteria for how you assess compat breaks as risks?")
kvprasoon
Thanks Joey for the detailed update on WGs :-)
Michael Lombardi
Latest version of powershellget v3 on the gallery broke the DSC implementation fwiw
Joey Aiello
Could you provide more details or a link to an issue? (Michael Lombardi asked "Latest version of powershellget v3 on the gallery broke the DSC implementation fwiw")
Robin
Is someone going to tweet the link to the Community Call minutes? I don't think enough people know about this and it would be something that would probably be featured on the powershell.org ICYMI post
Keith Hill
Then maybe the ?. should not be added to the language because folks that don't use ? in variable names will get tripped up on this as it won't be a syntax error. It just won't behave as they expect at runtime $foo?.length - here $foo? would be null and $null.length just return 0. This has potential to introduce lots of bugs because every other language does not require {},
Michael Lombardi
Do you have defined criteria for how you assess compat breaks as risks?
Fred
Any ETA on PowerShellGet v3 handling authenticated repositories in a user friendly manner or supporting v3 repositories?
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
kvprasoon
@Robin, Thanks for the suggestion, thats a good idea.
Jeff Hicks
Joey needs an intern
Fred
Any ETA on PowerShellGet v3 handling authenticated repositories in a user friendly manner or supporting v3 repositories?
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
kvprasoon
@Robin, Thanks for the suggestion, thats a good idea.
Michael Lombardi
Latest version of powershellget v3 on the gallery broke the DSC implementation fwiw
Jeff Hicks
Joey needs an intern
Anonymous
Staged approach? Warn on usage of ? in variables in one release and disable later
Anonymous
I just did some PHP work and the code was broken on almost every minor revision. I feel like you are the extreme to the other side and the best balance is somewhere in the middle
Keith Hill
FWIW I super appreciate the level of backwards compatibility that has been maintained (and we've enjoyed) since v1!
ili
I just did some PHP work and the code was broken on almost every minor revision. I feel like you are the extreme to the other side and the best balance is somewhere in the middle
Michael Lombardi
RE powershellget v3 and dsc: Mismatch between mof schema and parameters in Set-TargetResource - I'll file the bug or just submit a PR later today
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
Update-Help shouldn't update help in 5.1
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
then you wouldn't have that PSReadLine issue
Anonymous
Staged approach? Warn on usage of ? in variables in one release and disable later
Anonymous
I just did some PHP work and the code was broken on almost every minor revision. I feel like you are the extreme to the other side and the best balance is somewhere in the middle
Keith Hill
FWIW I super appreciate the level of backwards compatibility that has been maintained (and we've enjoyed) since v1!
ili
I just did some PHP work and the code was broken on almost every minor revision. I feel like you are the extreme to the other side and the best balance is somewhere in the middle
Michael Lombardi
RE powershellget v3 and dsc: Mismatch between mof schema and parameters in Set-TargetResource - I'll file the bug or just submit a PR later today
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
Update-Help shouldn't update help in 5.1
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
then you wouldn't have that PSReadLine issue
kvprasoon
example for can't have latest help for a cmdlet in both Win PS and PS core, Get-Serice do have a ComputerName parameter in win PS but not in PS core
Justin Grote
Definitely the PM presence has been felt, great job to the team.
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
If you say PS7 can run side-by-side PS5.1 without interference, and then you update help in 5.1 from PS7, that's not really true
Chris Warwick
Thanks for the call :-)
Justin Grote
Definitely the PM presence has been felt, great job to the team.
kvprasoon
example for can't have latest help for a cmdlet in both Win PS and PS core, Get-Serice do have a ComputerName parameter in win PS but not in PS core
Why is Update-Help in 7x updates help in 5.1?
If you say PS7 can run side-by-side PS5.1 without interference, and then you update help in 5.1 from PS7, that's not really true
Chris Warwick
Thanks for the call :-)
JB "AspenForester" Lewis
Thanks!