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From: cchndl <28229098+cchndl@users.noreply.github.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 08:22:11 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] add minutes for June meeting

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+Minutes 22.06.2026
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+.. sidebar:: participants
+
+     * Georg Brandl
+     * Peter Braun
+     * Niklas Ekström
+     * Enrico Faulhaber
+     * Klaus Kiefer
+     * Bastian Klemke
+     * Alexander Zaft
+     * Markus Zolliker
+
+
+1) Welcome
+==========
+
+Georg as chair and Klaus as host welcome everyone.
+
+
+2) ISSE talks - presentation of slides, discussion
+==================================================
+
+Peter, Niklas, Markus and Alexander will present their sections, the slides
+will be merged before.
+
+There are some notes for everyone.
+
+3) SECoP 2.0 - outstanding issues
+=================================
+
+RFC 102, 103 and 104 are discussed. There are no blockers.
+
+Systems - concrete ones, demostration
+-------------------------------------
+
+Peter showcases a cryostat system he made with Bastian.
+
+There is some discussion about the details and the method of how to construct
+the hierarchy.
+
+Open questions that are discussed:
+
+- Should there be multiple inheritance?
+- How to deal with missing Features in the system?
+- Base with a lot of optional parts and then restricted sublcasses or a
+  tree of incrementally adding capabilities?
+
+18:00 finish for the day
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+Minutes 23.06.2026
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+.. sidebar:: participants
+
+     * Georg Brandl
+     * Peter Braun
+     * Niklas Ekström
+     * Enrico Faulhaber
+     * Klaus Kiefer
+     * Bastian Klemke
+     * Alexander Zaft
+     * Markus Zolliker
+
+1) Work session
+===============
+
+Re-checking some of the slides
+------------------------------
+
+Georg updated the slides in the evening, we go through them again.
+There are some minor comments.
+
+The question of when to publish 2.0 is raised.
+Georg mentions that the small changes to the yaml definition discussed yesterday will have to be included. Otherwise it's ready.
+
+SECoP could be released on Thursday, 25th of June 2026.
+
+Enno has concerns about the optionality in systems wrt a combinatorial explosion if too much is optional.
+Markus wants to know if there is already someone in the core group using it.
+Klaus says they are with their sample changer for example.
+
+Peter would like to include an option to have a list of modules in systems (0-infty).
+There are no objections to include a simple variant without max/min/further rules.
+
+Next time, we will have a discussion to try to go from the minimum to the point where we all agree what should be in a system to see and build the first v0 to put in the repo for first use and further discussion. (SampleChanger, cryo, powersupply).
+
+It should be stressed in the ISSE committee meeting that now is the time to contribute.
+
+Work on tutorials, outreach, structure of documentation
+-------------------------------------------------------
+
+Peter made a PR for including guides for handshake, coupled modules, check
+message, and meaning.
+
+The SECoP Octopy guide will be filled with a stub to contact Nicklas.
+Frappy guide needs the addition of the medium complexity example.
+
+There will be a small reordering with the implementation list and the "getting started section"
+
+AI MCP with SECoP?
+------------------
+
+Nicklas brings up the topic of MCP, an interface for LLMs to use some APIs.
+There is some general interest.
+
+We'll keep it in mind for Thursday if someone asks about AI integration.
+
+AoB
+---
+
+There will be a list of next projects.
+
+Klaus will ask Eddy for a slide about the ILL PLC implementation.
+
+A more fun discussion in the end is about visibility, stickers and "SECoP inside" logos.
+
+There could/should be a discussion+session at the ISSE meeting in September. Klaus will be there.
+
+Closing
+-------
+
+Georg thanks everyone for the lively and productive meeting.
+
+Thanks Klaus, Bastian and Peter for hosting!