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FDC3 Identity & Threat Modelling Meeting - Nov 14, 2024 #1435

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Yannick-Malins opened this issue Nov 14, 2024 · 7 comments
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FDC3 Identity & Threat Modelling Meeting - Nov 14, 2024 #1435

Yannick-Malins opened this issue Nov 14, 2024 · 7 comments

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Date

Thursday 14 Nov 2024 - 16:00 UTC

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Agenda (45mn)

  • Convene & roll call, review meeting notices (5mn)
  • Continue brainstorm on how to share public keys for signing/encryption flows, agree on one or multiple recommendations (40mn)

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Kris West / interop.io 🚀

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yannick malins / Symphony

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kriswest commented Nov 14, 2024

Some notes we took at the end of the call for @Yannick-Malins:

  • Establishing trust requires administrative between two firms + a system of confirming identity
  • That could result in an approving TLD or appD's domain such that any apps published under the appD on that domain can be identified and hence could be trusted
  • AppD records can contain JSON Web Key elements describing keys to use for authentication of identity - need to establish a field for these, which can hold multiple keys
  • Set-up of a secure channel might involve exchanging appD record URLs, which can be compared to that approved list.
  • This doesn't require a central directory (e.g. FINOS) - but there might still be advantages to creating one to help with onboarding processes - if not record retrievals
  • Federation of appDs (so an appD referencing records held in another) has use cases of its own - both at the FINOS level and for users of Desktop Agents (not just copying records but referencing them from the true owner).
  • To get this done in teh standard, we'll need:
    • a proposal to add some JWK elements to the appD record
    • a proposal to intents and contexts needed (potentially including an exchange appD URLs between apps looking to talk)
    • documentation of the process of secure communication to add to a new page in the standard (probably under the API section, but perhaps in a new file)
    • possible a review of the proposal/sample implementation by a security expert (for confirmation it is secure process)
  • The keys added to AppD records can later be used for proposals to enable app identity validation by Desktop Agents

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